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to reduce the deficit, 63% said no. 86% of the ads run for obama were personal attacks on romney. he won a stunning mandate to not be romney. he did not run on the basis he was going to do massive new spending and the kind of tax increases, $1.6 trillion that he's now talking about. and at the same time that obama was elected president, the republican house, which had twice voted for a real budget -- remember, the president's budget he claims he has a mandate for was put up before the house and the democrats all voted against it. in the senate, the democrats didn't want to have anything to do with it. it's a little hard to argue, he had a mandate for something the rest of his party ran away from. >> well -- >> did not run ads on those issues. >> and, of course, it was a bit more complicated than that. but to your point about the exit polls, it's true, most people said that they didn't want tax increases to solve the deficit. what they said -- the majority, was they wanted both balanced. they wanted cuts and tax increases. which is what both john boehner and the president -- in very strid
in the deficit. at the end of the day the whole thing is about -- it's optical illusions and face saving for republicans. whether it's the notion they may not vote yes but just present, which is complete smoke and mirrors or the fundamental argument which is closingรง loopholes is not a tax increase. of course it is. at the core this is about asking americans to pay more americans to the federal government. this is just -- it's -- bill clinton called it kabuki theater. it's a way for republicans not to be ashameded and walk back the ideological core they've run on for the past few years. >> if president obama is able to come out and say i'm going to support getting rid of tax ducks for charitable organizations, hospitals, universities, religious organizations, i want to get rid of that tax deduction f he puts his finger -- his hand anywhere near that decision, he's a quloon tugoing to be a l every hospital, church, philanthropic in the united states, from the rockefeller down to the littlist catholic charity will fight that. they need those tax cuts to survive. it's a loony toon idea. i
who actually came up with a plan to cut the deficit, a plan that everyone hailed as magnificent but no one wanted to adopt. >>> joining me now is cnn contributor will cain. he leans right. good morning, will. >> good morning. let me tell you something. you said the popularity of gangnam style knows no limits. i beg to differ. >> you do? >> i think we just found its limits, when 8-year-olds start doing gangnam style you can count on its popularity decreasing. we're about a year away from it being makarena. >> trying to get two sides come together to come to a deal on the fiscal cliff. >> i don't know about young people's abilities to force cats and dogs and democrats and republicans to come together to find a deal. he had a much more profound message than just simply dancing in that clip, in that psa essentially. he was trying to alert young people to the fact that old people, bluntly, are organized. look at the army of aarp representatives that ensure that programs like medicare and social security, programs that take up something like 50% of our federal budget will remain intac
discussed for more than a year and a half on the campaign trail, $4 trillion of balanced deficit reduction. weight not a real proposal what is john boehner sent to the white house which actually lowered rates for those at the top but asked the middle class to bear the entire burden of deficit reduction. that's not what the american people voted for. i mean if you look at even cnn's exit polls all over this country, upwards of 60, 65% of people voted for balanced deficit reduction, which means asking those at the top to pay their fair share. more people voted for that, the idea of that, then they voted for the president. so we need to look to the american people and look what they want on how to reduce the deficit. we have to do it in a balanced way and fair way. >> but if you look at polling and i know you don't always just go on polling, right, but polling is also -- you ask people what should be cut, 79% say don't cut medicare at all and i think that lots of things, democrats and republicans have said, that is on the table too. you don't always necessarily follow the polls when you liste
denied there is any effect on the deficit at all. durbin said social security hasn't added a dime to the deficit. in 2012 it added $160 billion of debt. that is more than a dime. there are 2.5 trillion in the trust fund in social security that will take care of it for 20 more years, 25 more years. that means pieces of paper in the trust fund where the treasury says we will pay you. it doesn't have the money. it spent surpluss in the past. that's a promise from the treasury which is pank ru bankrupt. that is infection but they know it. the republicans are bad guys these are good guys. surprising to me the president wokd get the revenues he wants from de deductions and exclusions. it is on rates not for economic reasons but political. he wants to break the backs of republicans. it this is a continuation of his campaign he thinks he wants it and now he wants to drive the steak through it. it is all about politics nothing about economics. >> democratic congressman chris van holland appeared on special report. there are cuts to the president's budget but republicans haven't paid attent
this conversation about having deficit reduction right now. we shouldn't have deficit reduction right now. we should focus on jobs and employment and continued stimulus for the economy, which i was really happy about the president at least had some of that in his plan. then you ask yourself, okay, what could you do in terms of reducing the deficit that would be the least damaging, and what economists say and what makes common sense is people at the top end of the income scale, who can afford to pay a little more, that's the place where we can raise the rates now and not have a major economic impact. so i take the governor's point, and i agree with it. we probably are going to -- if we're going to continue to make the promises and keep the promises that i think are so important and most progressives do, we probably need to raise taxes on a lot of people. it's a question of timing of when to make those choices. >> the rush limbaugh showed us today how difficult it is for john boehner and eric cantor to make the moves they've already made. let's listen to what rush said. >> what we got today was a semi
? >> reporter: scott, this republican counterproposal today is long on reducing the deficit and saving big on medicare, but it leaves the two sides still hundreds of billions of dollars apart and they are not close on the basic approach to solve the fiscal cliff. in a letter to the president, house republicans called their offer a fair middle ground. it's a ten-year framework that cuts the deficit by $2.2 trillion. it includes $600 billion in health care cuts-- mostly medicare and medicaid-- $300 billion in other mandatory spending and $300 billion in cuts to all other federal spending. by contrast, the president has proposed around $600 billion in cuts to all entitlements, including medicare and he'd reduce other federal spending by $100 billion a year. the president has also proposed spending $50 billion in new stimulus and republicans have refused to consider it. the biggest difference by far is in how to raise new revenues. republicans would raise $800 billion by reducing tax loopholes, not with a tax rate increase. the president would double new revenues to $1.6 trillion, with most of
the debt ceiling now $16 trillion and due to expire in february without more deficit reduction. >> history shows the only major deficit cutting deals we ever do around here, ever comes after debates over the debt ceiling. it may be a good idea if you don't care about the debt but it's a non-starter for those of us who do. >> reporter: public opinion generally is on the president's side, but republicans in the house are not paralyzed or perilous, more unified behind speaker boehner than a year ago. why is this important? the white house is beginning to notice and now believe there is a deal boehner can find the stroets pass it. >> an idea what's really at stake. rebecca jarvis has a look how the government spends money and how it could spend less. rebecca rebecca, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. >> the question comes up in terms of the money that we're talking about in raising the rate. how much is it that the republicans are objecting to? >> if you look at that $250,000 number, if you were to raise taxes on everybody making $250,000 or more in
that if we go over the cliff the deficit goes up. >> and the debt goes up. >> and the debt goes up. >> wrong. >> like our relationship people don't get it. >> deficit almost goes away. difference is about $8 trillion. >> about 10.5. >> join us tomorrow. right now it's time for "squawk on the street." >>> good wednesday morning. welcome to "squawk on the street." live at the nyse. what a morning shaping up here. a little data to look at. m&a. the president speaks to the business roundtable in a couple of hours. futures with modest gains. europe holding onto gains and china up nearly 3% over night as shanghai catches a break. our road map begins with a $20 billion deal. freeport mcmoran getting into the energy business making two acquisitions. plains exploration and mcmoran exploration. >>> concerns over the u.s. economy as adp misses estimates. the blame goes to superstorm sandy. goldman says the party is officially over for gold. >> starbucks at an investors conference will add 1,500 stores in the u.s. over the next five years. wait until you hear what they said about china. >> a big day in
that calls for $2.2 trillion in deficit savings. it includes $800 billion in tax reforms, 600 billion in medicare reforms and 600 billion in spending cuts. because it doesn't contain tax hikes for the wealthiest americans or specifics about which loopholes will be eliminated, the president immediately rejected the republican proposal. want to know how far apart democrats and republicans are? listen to this. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> it's unfortunate the white house has spent three weeks doing basically nothing. >> what we can't do is sit here trying to figure out what works for them. >> the president's idea of negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> it's clear to me they made a political calculation. if their ideas are different from ours, we can't guess what they are. >> they need to be more specific. >> some specificity from them. >> he can't be serious. >> haven't even begun to be serious. >> we need to get serious. >> i don't think they're serious. >> i would say we're nowhere. period. we're nowhere. >> hard to disagree with that. we're nowhere. period. >> t
the deficit down? >> greg: stop spending. >> bob: i get that. >> eric: i don't need 30 seconds. go over the fiscal cliff. take $1.2 trillion out of spending and tax hikes, stops the spending. mandatory spending cuts across the board. you know what? the only way to do it. only way to do it. everything else is chump change. >> dana: how do you deal with deficit reduction if you raise the taxes on a portion of the country that will pay for the government for 8.5 days? >> bob: you couple that with the social security adjustments and medicare. 'canes that is not what geithner put on the table. >> dana: that is going to be on -- >> bob: that is what is going to be on the table. >> dana: republicans held their feet on the fire. >> bob: whatever it took. >> greg: i used to think howard dean was a proctologist because he had his head up his butt but he pulled the curtain back. it's never about raising taxes on the rich because you run out of rich. >> andrea: right. >> greg: that is the point. >> eric: raise tax on everyone who pays taxes or everyone? everyone means the poor and 47% will start pa
put together a plan to move us towards some kind of deficit reduction package eventually evolved into the simpson-bowles commission plan. but the point i was making and i think the speaker is making is republicans have not come out here with some hardball, crazy off-the-table negotiation. what they have done is put something that bill clinton's former chief of staff at one time odd voe indicated for. and i think in the end that reflects that we are moving toward the potential compromise deal. >> he said -- >> i think i'm inappropriately in the middle here. i ought to be over there on the left. what bowles said yesterday was i was testifying before congress, and i described that as a midpoint between what republicans want and what democrats wanted. it was not what i would recommend. but i don't think that's even relevant. >> -- circumstances have changed since then. >> i don't even think that's relevant. i think the real question here and i think ron's right about this is are tax rates going to go up? yes, they're going to go up, because republicans are not going to have to vote f
leaders. governors are concerned about the impact of deficit reduction measures on their state budgebu. the latest gop offer would overhaul the tax code, raise $800 billion in new revenue but seek $600 billion in health savings, net savings add up to about $2.2 trillion over ten years. boehner called the white house's original offer la la land and it does appear that even though at one point bowles endorsed a blueprint like this, he's trying to distance himself from it right now. >> the president got re-elected. he's claiming he got re-elected in part because he wants to tax that 2%. he cannot go back on that. in the meantime, congress most of the republicans signed the grover norquist pledge which says you cannot tax that 2% more than anybody else. you can't increase the taxes. so we're at a stalemate and someone has to give and i don't see anyone giving right now. >> bank of america today commented on the let's jump crowd. the bungee jump crowd for which they think is a scenario. >> you wonder how much of that is in negotiating position. embraced early on by senator schumer, new york
him for a long time, deficit hawk. they haven't allowed him to put a budget out for years. he's growing frustrated. i'm sure he's going to be glad to leave. but i was surprised by that as well. you see also, sam stein, republicans are now starting to really bash boehner from the right. the president needs to take note. he needs to take note. >> give him some running room. >> i'm only saying this because you remember, we went through this with newt. you know, bill clinton would push newt only so far, and then the conservatives in the caucus like myself and matt salmon, steve largent and others would say we're not doing a deal. we will take this place down. we're not doing a deal. and then newt would call bill clinton up and say, you're pushing me too far. you've got to work with me here. the same thing's happening right now with boehner. >> with boehner. >> the republican -- and when you start stripping people of committee -- committee seats, war breaks out and it gets really -- it happened with us. it's about to happen here. he's got to realize that boehner is his partner. >>
of how we fix our national deficit. as you well know, we face the fiscal cliff, a series of tax hikes and spending cuts that many people think if they go into effect will put the country into recession. yet we heard the treasury secretary tim geithner say the president is willing to see the country go off the fiscal cliff if republicans do not accede to his demands. >> it's probably pretty real. but you can't get to where we need to go by cutting spending, that won't cut it. you're going to destroy a fragile economy. you can't get there by taxing your way into it and you can't grow your way out of this. you have to have a blend. when you have leaders of parties and people from the administration saying i think it will be to the advantage of the democrats to go off the cliff or i think it will be advantage to the republicans to go off the cliff or the president to go off the cliff, that's like betting your country. there's stupidity involved in that. this is big-time stuff. >> let me ask you about a report that some republicans now are perhaps willing to see the tax rates rise to some
of time. we were very concerned because we thought the budget was going to be -- the deficit was going to be about $150 billion. that shocked everyone into action. then, unlike now, there remains some degree of bipartisanship. there was comity, there was discussion, even as we battled over the budget, we worked together in a bipartisan way on many other issues. you didn't have the total polarization that you have today. >> i mean, when you were elected senate majority leader, i understand one of the first people that you called was the minority leader, senator dole. >> that's right. i called him right away, i went to see him almost immediately, and i said to him look, you've been here a long time, i'm relatively new, these are very tough jobs in the best of circumstances, and if we don't have some degree of trust between us, they will be impossible jobs. so i said to him i want to tell you how i intend to behave toward you and to ask that you behave towards me in the same way. and we agreed on the most basic of things. i told him i would not surprise him, that's important in the senate
help in the push to reduce the deficit. the problem, stalled proposals to replace the expired program include billions of dollars in cuts to food stamps. the senate bill would shave $4.5 billion from the program over ten years. the house version would slash $16 billion over the same time period. the congressional budget office estimates the house bill would throw upwards of $3 million people off the food stamp roles and hundreds of thousands of children denied free school lunches. needless to say the cuts could not come at a worst time for recipients. as of august, 47 million people americans relied on food stamps to keep from going hungry up from 31 million just four years ago. joining me on set, the author of "the juice," and in the nation's capitol, cnbc's chief washington correspondent, john harwood. we have our sage of capitol hill luke russert on set here. you're holding it down in the nation's capital. in firms of the discussions of the fiscal cliff, the white house is focused solely on cuts for top earners. almost no discussion of unemployment insurance and payroll taxes, the
the proposal last week, house republicans offered an outline for $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction mostly through spending cuts, and while president obama would not answer questions about the counterproposal -- >> no deal better than a bad deal, sir? >> thank you. >> reporter: -- a senior white house official assailed it as a step backwards saying if republicans do not agree to some higher rates for wealthier taxpayers, the nation will go over the cliff and the american people will hold the republicans responsible. wall street remains optimistic a deal will be struck, so the lack of progress has not yet resulted in a market plunge, but some economists estimate that because of the uncertainty posed by the fiscal cliff, at least 200,000 fewer jobs have been created this year. and, diane, the official deadline for the fiscal cliff is december 31st at midnight when the ball drops in times square, but there's actually another deadline. the house of representatives is scheduled to go on winter break a week from friday, so really there are only 11 days to work out a plan as of now, diane. >> tal
to deficit reduction that can help give businesses certainty and make sure the country grows. and unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenues, but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at math, it doesn't work. >> reporter: so unbalanced approach is the white house's nice way of saying you got to be kidding me. jay carney used the phrase in the briefing just now that the proposal from the republicans was a bunch of magic needs and fairy dust and the current standoff is continuing with neither side talking today, brooke. >> magic beans, fairy dust, la la land, it is laughable but not. it is serious stuff that affects every one of us come january 1st, 28 days to go. we know some of the reporting from dana bash on the hill, there are no formal talks going on. the president insists in speaking in this bloomberg interview, he does speak to speaker boehner all the time that the meetings are not what matter. what have you, jessica yellin what have you learned in your repo
. not this president. when you look at the debt and deficits he run up. he run up more debt than all of the other presidents combined and maybe the republicans should let the president go ahead and sail off of the cliff and do it for the next generation. keep in mind, somebody may have to pay the bill it may be our children and our children's children. do we want to leave the country in better shape. >> gretchen: they will not have enough pennies in the piggy bank. moments ago kate middleton and prince william left the hospital. she was admitted on monday after suffering from acute morning sickness. kate was treated by the queens doctors. she is headed to kensington palace where she will rest for a extended time. the rogue nation of syria has begun mixing chemical weapons and loading them in to bombs. it is raising fears that president assad will use them on his own people. >> if he would drop the gas, it would kill 100,000 people immediately and in damascus a million people could be affected. it is very serious. >> gretchen: fox news learns that the military drawing up contingency plans in case
think he'd disagree. >> the co-chair of obama's deficit commission, but yesterday mr. bowles flatly rejected that connection. meanwhile, the white house is turning to campaign style messaging as a reminder of whose tax plan was chosen in the court of public opinion on election day. >> under my plan, first of all, 98% of folks who make less than 250,000, you wouldn't see your income taxes go up a single dime. all right? because you're the ones who need relief. but we're not going to be able to get it done unless we also ask the wealthiest households to pay higher taxes on their income officials $250,000. the same rate we had when bill clinton was president and our economy kree aed nearly 23 million new jobs. >> and there are reports that republicans are considering a doomsday plan should talks break down. according to senior republican sources the gop would allow a vote on extending bush tax cuts for the middle class and nothing more. under one variation of this plan, house republicans would vote present on the bill to voice their disapproval but still allowing it to pass entirely on
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the business community views this deficit thing as the biggest problem that we can solve that we need to solve. there's something called a campaign to fix the debt, which i'm on the steering committee, 120 leading ceos from everything from general electric to jpmorgan on down. really committed to doing something and accepting the idea that revenues have to go up, not ideological about how, but most of all, wanting a big $4 trillion package. and so they have become, in effect, allies of the president. they're really trying to get to the same place. at some point there may be differences over how much entitlements, how much this or that, but right now their interests are aligned, and they both agreed to be friends again. and so they've spent a stream of business ceos into the white house. the president -- yesterday the business roundtable and gave a very warm and accommodating speech. and they are comrades in arms, the least for the time being. >> willie, what a big difference from what we heard from business leaders for the first four years. this is a pretty dramatic shift. >> or even just a fe
not represent the bowles simpson plan, nor is it the bowles plan in my testimony on deficit reduction. i simply took the mid point of the public offers, put forward during the negotiations to demonstrate where i thought a deal could be reached at the time. he's very much backing away from speaker boehner's letter. the question i wanted to ask you is some of the details, as you know, it's all in. >> can we spin one more point on that? >> absolutely. >> here's speaker boehner who is taking a mid point on the compromise between the two sides and offered it, and it's already flatley rejected? >> i think he may be rejected, sir, if i may -- >> i'm not talking about simpson -- erskine boelsz. i'm talking about the white house's response to it. >> let's get to that too. i think what erskine bowles is saying in his statement, that this letter from speaker boehner does not represent his theory, number one, but i think the line that the white house is having problems with, and i believe i found it in page two of the speaker's letter, i'll read it to you if i can. he says this, notably, the new revenue in
not contributed to the deficit. >>neil: show me an entitlement you would top. we are not talking about taking food away from the elderly, is there anything you would touch beyond taxing rich people? >>guest: we have to take a serious look at medicare. >>neil: your organization seems to put out, don't touch that, not now, not part of this deal. >>guest: what we saying, we can generate $950 billion of the $1.2 trillion we need over 10 years without eliminating or reducing benefits with medicare. i am also saying if we are looking for additional cuts and we need to do more everyone must be open. >>neil: but you are not open to the thing you said. you were one of the best speechers at the democratic convention but the speech ain't flying. it is implying it is on the republicans they better cough up more in taxes because we will keep feeding the beast. it is not about taming the beast but feeding the beast. >>guest: i need to say this, most of viewers watch this show now believe that all of us are involved in some kind of negotiation. that is not true. >>neil: there is nothing going on. >>guest: nothin
that's out there and that wouldn't make up for our deficit. >> no, but the president's plan of raising taxes on the rich, let's assume even he has his way. let's assume republicans go along with his plan. that at best raises about $70 billion a year. that leaves us with a trillion dollar deficit. this puts the president i think in a little bit of a hole. if the republicans give his way, what's plan "b"? what do we do next to deal with the deficit? the president and tim geithner basically this weekend said we've got plans to cut entitlements by 400 bill or ion 500 billion dollars. that's over ten years. we have a much bigger hole than i think anyone in washington is willing to agree is such a problem. >> lrepublicans are angry the president laid out this plan that they say he knew would just inflame them. >> that's true. >> why toedon't republicans act like big boys and girls and present their own plan about how they specifically want to cut entitlements? isn't that how you negotiate? >> yes, but, of course, they've done that. that's the most curious thing to me. tim geithner said the r
on the side. that was his look back in the day. critics are saying there is a deficit resemblance. i'll let you be the judge of that. this biopic has just been announced as the closing night film for the sundance film festival in january. it's calling the movie, quote, the true story of one of the greatest entrepreneurs in american history which chronicles the defining 30 years of steve jobs' life. it says it's, quote, candid, inspiring and personal. this is actually one of two movies coming out about steve jobs who died just a little over a year ago. aaron sorkin's writing a different movie based on the best-selling biography by walter isaackson. for now, ashton kuchar is the man and christine and zoraida, some people are questioning the casting of ashton as jobs. mostly because he's known for comedy. but you know, he's also famously tech savvy. he got out ahead of the curve on twitter. he now has 13 million followers plus. he's entrepreneurial, too, he has his own movie production company, all kinds of business ventures. maybe it's not so much of a stretch to see ashton as steve jobs. bac
before the joint select committee on deficit reduction, i simply took the midpoint of the public offers to demonstrate where i thought a deal could be reached at the time. he's very much backing away from speaking boehner's letter, but the question i wanted the to ask you -- >> can we spend one more point on that? >> of course. >> what did he say? that was the midpoint of a compromise from the two. so, here's speaker boehner who is taking a new point on the compromise between the two sides and offered it and it's already flatly rejected? >> i think what he might be rejecting, sir, if i may -- >> no, i'm not talking abo about erskine bowles. >> i think what he's saying in his statement, this letter from speaker boehner does not represent his theerly, number one, but i think the line the white house is have been problems with, i believe i found it in page two of the speaker's letter, he says this. notably, the new revenue in the bowles plan would not be a i chiefed through higher taxes, which we continue to oppose and will not agree to in order to protect small businesses and our economy.
a counter proposal on the fiscal cliff. their plan, $2.2 trillion deficit savings over the next decade, but it does not include higher tax rates for the wealthy. the house speaker john boehner calls it a credible plan that deserves serious consideration by the white house. guess what? the white house released a statement tonight saying the plan is nothing new, that it lowers rates for the wealthy and sticks the middle class with the bill. so to borrow a phrase, we're nowhere. period. david walker is president and ceo of comeback america initiative. he's made it his mission to promote fiscal responsibility. he joins us along with cnn political analyst, david gergen. david walker, let me start with you. the house republicans put forward their counter proposal. speaker boehner says it's credible and the white house should consider it. is it credible or is it more of what you have called the irresponsible unethical immoral behavior of all the politicians here in washington? >> i think both sides are now putting things on the table but i think they're confused. what we have to do in the sho
a credible plan in reducing the deficit but avoiding actually falling off a cliff at the end of the year. it's very possible that they don't reach an agreement between now and january 1st. however, when january 15th hits and most americans receive their first paycheck and they notice it's actually lower, i think hell is going to break loose. as a result of that, they'll come back to the table and reach an agreement. >> i think don't panic is good advice, but i don't see what the problem is with taking a little cash off the table here and putting it on the side and waiting to see if we do get a major adverse market reaction to them putting that cash to work once we get a resolution. >> this is what makes a market. thank you for your divergent thoughts on the market today. see you later. thanks. >>> when we come back, we have the closing countdown already for this tuesday. >> then, we're watching netflix. the stock surging today on a deal with disney. is the stock move justified? we'll check it out. more on that straight ahead. stay with us. people save a lot . but today...( sfx: loud noise of
of this is smoke and mirrors. all of this deficit reduction stuff, there isn't any. there aren't any spending cuts. >> greta: while democrats and republicans fight it out, the nation is waiting and waiting and waiting and suffering as they wait. former new york city mayor rudy guiliani joins us. good evening, mayor. >> how will this unravel? >> if you take them at their word, it sounds like the president is anxious to go over the fiscal cliff, and he leaves very little room for republicans to negotiate with him with a 1.7 trillion dollar tax increase, 50 billion more in stimulus spending, and absolutely no expenditure reductions that are going to take place right now. i mean, from the point of view of republicans, you're going to get more spending decreases if you go over the fiscal cliff than if you deal with president obama. >> greta: well, it appears to many in the city that it's politico check mate for the president. if we go over the fiscal cliff, what it means is the taxes will go up on the wealthy, the big earners. it also goes up on the middle class. i assume the middle class will look to
knows that we have this terrible problem with the debt and the deficit, the entitlement issues and the president doesn't want to address them. he simply wants congress to give him the power to raise taxes now on the top 2% of income and put off entitlement reform and spending reductions until later. we thought the whole campaign was about how you're going to fix the entitlement situation. instead, the president wants to put it off again. i mean, this can is going to be so big, you won't be able to kick it down the road. >> brian: the debility creeling i want the power, as the executive branch to raise the debt ceiling as high as i want it and i want more stimulus spending? look what he's proposing? $1.6 trillion in tax spending. $400 billion in unspecified medicare cuts. the doctors are going to love that. by the way, they say unspecified, that means unspecified, that means they don't exist. >> right. they won't exist. the president just wants to off, he wants all the power. and this is a constitutional issue that goes to the heart of the checks and balances system. congress ha
cliff and will it involve significant deficit reduction. the president said i thought twitter was supposed to be fun. where are all of the crazy video. twitter boring. >> gretchen: it is an interesting concept instead of spending time twittering why not go and lead the discussion between the parties. >> steve: or the president went golfing three or four times . it would be great if he went golfing with john boehner. >> gretchen: as hong as they don't ask. here are the headlines. a scare for franky muniz who rose to fame for malkare olm in the middle. >> it is the video . desense -- desensitized to violence. how many have you had. >> gretchen: the 26 year old recovering after suffering from a min i stroke. they are awaiting results. they noticed that nuniz had trouble understanding word and speaking. >> brian: he has to take better care of himself. >> steve: meanwhile, a mother could face crimminal charges if she doesn't bring her daughter back to the hospital. cops are searching for 11 year old emily who suffers from leukemia. her mom removed her iv and snuck her out of the ar
that republicans do not believe this is the right path to cutting our deficit, into promoting economic growth, boehner says. they do not want to raise tax rates. on wealthy americans or any american. i was outside a meeting that the republican leaders had with the rank and file members yesterday, speaking to member after member after they were leaving their meeting. there's often quite a break from the leadership and rank and file. they have given john boehner trouble in the past but at this point, they are giving him some lee way and they seem to be rallying around the speaker and his negotiations at this point. there's no budging on either side. >> they said there was a lot of support there. president obama said i'm sticking to my guns also. the president is warning the republicans next move will be to use the upcoming vote on the debt ceiling as leverage in the budget battle. let's listen. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, which by the way we have ne
dwogoal here io come up with a plan that moves us to the budget deficit and to reduce the debt. we need to deal on the revenue side, many vehicles there, to use, and we also need to deal with the expense side. i think it is crafting a solution on both of those that is going to allow us to find a solution. >> all on the table and hopefully they will work and sort of meet in the middle and find that compromise. let's -- >> actually, this is the enabler for economic development in the united states. this is absolutely important we do this. >> i want to ask you about that, in just a moment. let's talk cars. i know you are relaunching the lincoln -- >> please. >> yes, we will. the lincoln brand, making it part of the lincoln motor company, buying a super bowl ad, putting lincoln in the commercials. when you look at this new car, i have to be honest, this is not my grandfather's lincoln. >> there you go. >> this is a new lincoln. was that the point? >> absolutely. and it is just -- it is absolutely the main point because, you know, the lincoln motor company has been associated with the ford m
.2 trillion from the deficit, which is about $600 billion more than the president's plan. it would raise the eligibility age for medicare from 65 to 67. and lower the annual cost of living increases for social security benefits. south carolina senator lindsey graham says those two programs have to be brought under control. >> if we adjusted the age of retirement over the next 30 years like ronald reagan and tip o'neil adjusted the cpi index and means tested benefits, we could save medicare and social security from insolvency and people need the programs. the good news is, we would get our kids and grandkids out of the situation of becoming greece. >> the president's aides not surprisingly quickly rejected the plan which republicans say would bring in $800 billion in higher tax revenue without raising rates. white house communications director said, quote, it actually promises to lower rates for the wealthy and sticks the middle class with the bill. press secretary jay carney said mr. obama is determined to phase out the bush administration tax cuts for families making more than $250,000
was on this morning, whom i have great respect for, he had the piece from the imf study when you cut the deficit by 1%, what is the impact on the gdp. they didn't get into that this morning but if his numbers he's using 0.9 to 1.4, if you lose 2% to 3% of gdp you'll go to negative growth which will impact -- >> at the very least the wheels will be on the runway. >> absolutely. >> let's switch gears, mario draghi today, listen, i was so wrong and i don't know how long it will last but i give him credit, at least for this period of time, how long it lasts because there is no growth and recession in europe i can't answer but what were your observations on that press conference? >> last night when i wrote about it, mario draghi can put his feet up and have a stella and enjoy. he bought himself time. july 6th will be mario draghi's day of celebration because he stemmed the financial crisis in europe and bought time. berlusconi comes onto the scene this morning with the politics and italian debt markets paid a price for it, it's coming back as we're talking, rallied back quite a bit in the ten-year bond fu
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